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Air Date: Sept. 4, 2003
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	Big Brother.
	Mainstream media.
	Government cover-ups.
	You want answers?
	Well, so does he.
	He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	All right, my friends.
	It's already Thursday, the 4th of September.
	2003.
	I'm Alex Jones, your host.
	Coming up in the third hour, we've got Jack McClam, Police Against the New World Order, to talk about some of the tactics we can use using the truth to wake up police and the military.
	So that's coming up the third hour.
	In the meantime, I'm going to cover news and have open phones so you can have a chance to get on air and talk about the news, items that you think are important, or any questions or comments that you may have.
	We're good to go.
	We're good to go.
	Now, day one, I told everybody this was going to happen.
	The UN was going to come in, was going to take the country over.
	The globalists always say what they're going to do beforehand.
	They said up front this was the official policy after, quote, stabilization.
	Now it's this theatrical situation where they tell the world, oh, America couldn't get the job done.
	Now the UN that was against the war the whole time has to come in and save us.
	So it's more elaborate propaganda.
	Also, U.S.
	We'll get into that.
	recruiting former Saddam agents to battle old boss.
	Now, wait a minute.
	I thought that Saddam was dead and his sons were dead and Chemical Ali was dead.
	But now they tell us that, well, they're alive and Chemical Ali's been captured and the Saddam sons have been killed three separate times.
	And they'll be back in a few months saying Saddam's sons are back attacking and chemical Ali is back attacking or died in a bombing attacker.
	They captured him.
	We're entering a literal false reality.
	Also, more is coming out on touchscreen voting being a fraud with the CIA and the federal government involved running it.
	Actual documents now coming out.
	People have gotten into meetings and caught all this in the mainstream news.
	But again, in just a few regional papers not making national news.
	I already mentioned this, but Russia may send troops to Iraq.
	London on high terror alert.
	The police chief says, we're going to put troops on the streets.
	That equals safety.
	No, that equals martial law.
	But the border's wide open to the country.
	Illegals pour in.
	We have now posted the analysis I did of Arnold Schwarzenegger that goes over all the sordid details and background and the Illuminati backing that this sinister character has.
	So you'll definitely want to go to Infowars.com right now and download this article, read it for yourself, check out the hyperlinks that document what we're claiming, and then email it out to your friends and family, especially if they live on the West Coast or California.
	Because the story in and of itself is a diversion.
	Bustamante, Davis, Schwarzenegger, they're all the same on policies.
	But the background of this recall...
	Those that are backing Schwarzenegger, how he can have these big government socialistic views of abortion, open borders, gun control, and be hailed by the Limbaughs and Hannity's of the world.
	This article is very important.
	I hope everybody will go to Infowars.com.
	It's also posted on PrisonPlanet.com.
	Download it, email it out to everybody in your circle.
	Because people need to know the truth and need to understand what's behind this giant diversion that's taking place.
	So again, go to InfoWars.com and get this lengthy article that we've written that's very detailed.
	I went to a lot of trouble to write this, so I hope that you'll definitely go get it and get it out to everybody in your area.
	Also, it turns out they've got surveillance devices.
	In Dealey Plaza to listen to what people are saying on the streets.
	Of course, they're already doing that in most major cities, so we were already aware of it, but we'll get to that.
	More on Patriot Act 2 and Victory Act 2.
	It's metastasizing.
	Again, U.S.
	offers a report to U.N.
	on Iraq.
	More on that.
	Abortion doctors killer executed in Florida last night or early this morning.
	California governor slams actor for no show.
	Fox News, Gaines, other news networks.
	Paul, again, big show lined up for you, and open phones, and a great guest.
	Stay with us.
	Alex Jones here announcing the release of my new film, Police State 3 Total Enslavement.
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	We rip the Senator Patriot Act legislation 1 and 2 apart piece by piece and reveal the arrogance of what Ashcroft has to say about your liberty.
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	From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
	It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
	It's happened over and over again throughout history.
	Powerful people get into positions of authority and they seek to expand and maintain that power.
	They seek to overthrow any free population, to destroy any middle class that is not dependent on them.
	They seek to create a massive underclass and a tiny elite of bureaucrats and their military police enforcers.
	The exact same pattern, in the exact same order, textbook fashion is now unfolding worldwide.
	Command and control thugs, fascist communists, killed over 200 million people last century alone.
	And the sinister bankers that controlled and created the dictators of the last century are in control now.
	And are shutting up a whole new ball game where the numbers of dead and dying will dwarf those of the 20th century.
	Now, that's the historical facts.
	You can hope it's going to go away.
	You can tune into your lying neocons that tell you gun control is conservative.
	You can watch as you lose your property rights and as dozens of new giant federal agencies and state agencies are created, as they take your right to vote away with touchscreen systems run by the CIA publicly.
	You can sit there as we lose everything and are delivered into...
	Total bondage.
	Or you can get involved and become leaders and support this broadcast and support others that are telling the truth and that are involved in the fight for the republic.
	It's that simple.
	And we're going to have open phones today.
	The toll-free number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.
	I don't have a guest in the first or second hour.
	We have Jack McClam, police against the New World Order, police and military against the New World Order in the third hour.
	I've got a detailed analysis that I've written of Arnold Schwarzenegger, and it's very important that everyone read it, even if you don't live in California.
	It's a case-point example of the kingmakers in the New World Order and how if someone has their blessing, it doesn't matter how much dirt they've got in their background, they're anointed to dominate societies.
	I would ask that all the listeners that are on the computer get that story, read it and e-mail it and print it out and pass it on to folks so that we can expose this model neocon who is for total amnesty, open borders, abortion on demand, homosexuals adopting children, and I mentioned massive gun control, and I rarely watch TV.
	Every time I turn the TV on, Fox News is praising Arnold ad nauseam.
	You flip over to Fox Television and it's the most degenerate, family-destroying trash of any network.
	This is the neoconservatism.
	This is the group that votes with Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton.
	This is the group that has different rhetoric, but the actions are the same.
	This is the most dangerous force we're facing in the country right now because they have beguiled and snowed millions of good conservatives and Christians.
	Your Christian leaders are selling you out
	They've been paid off by the feds.
	I mean, we're in a serious situation.
	And right now, the phony neocon-conservatism is being exposed to the left wing.
	The left wing, the socialists, the communists are being energized.
	The Greens are being energized for a false counter-revolution to sweep into office in the near future.
	And then we're even going to go further downhill.
	Lord help us.
	I mean, I pray every night that God move to open the minds and hearts of men and women everywhere in this country.
	I've also got an editorial out of Casper, Wyoming.
	I want to read about Patriot Act and Victory Act.
	It's excellent.
	Just a bunch of different articles, but I said we go to calls early in the show, so let's do it.
	Eric in Texas, go ahead.
	You're on the air.
	Hey, Alex.
	I just wanted to call in, and I just love everything you're doing.
	There's so many angles to exposing people to the info war that's out there, and I found one that, besides your tapes, has been really tremendous in kind of exposing this sort of thing, and that is there's a comedy that's about 59 minutes long on the Internet.
	You may or may not have heard of it.
	It's called Between Iraq and a Hard Place, and it's by these two folks, Rimmer and Byrd,
	No, I'm not.
	I am not familiar with that.
	If you just type in
	Between Iraq and a hard place, do a search.
	You can go to that site.
	And this came out of Christmas of last year, actually, before we went into Iraq.
	And it's an English comedy, and they go through the history of the British Empire in that Mesopotamia area and so forth.
	And it's just 59 minutes, I think, or 49 minutes.
	Wonderful comedy.
	Very bright.
	Very well thought out.
	And it's just, along with your tape and news and Deception Dollar, I think this is a unique angle in that it's comedy.
	And I've sat down with friends and we eat popcorn and just watch it live right there streaming off the Internet.
	And it's got a conversion rate sort of like what your tape does.
	And by conversion rate, we're talking about 80, 90 plus percent of people waking up when they see Road to Tyranny or this particular play that you're talking about.
	The danger there, and I haven't seen this play, is, again...
	Under Clinton, the neocons were able to build up great credibility because they were legitimately exposing Clinton for traitorous, larcenous activities.
	But again, they didn't mention that Bill Clinton was just a puppet of the globalists.
	It was all, oh, all this bad stuff's happening because of Bill Clinton.
	If we just had a good Republican in, this wouldn't be happening.
	The same thing's happening under Bush.
	The Democrats can rightfully point out all this incredible corruption, all these horrible things, act like it's Bush and the crime family that's running all this when they're just high-level puppets as well, and then that lends legitimacy and energizes the false left wing.
	Right, and that's the danger.
	Yeah, so we've got to show people how the Republican and Democrats on open borders, gun control, sellouts of secrets to foreign countries, pardoning of traitors, campaign finance reform, on all these key issues of not arming the pilots, it goes on and on, are all on the same page.
	And then we've got to look at the so-called neocon purveyors of information, what hypocrites they are, how they're only about labels.
	And the best example is Arnold Schwarzenegger.
	Anti-gun, anti-family, open border, all this stuff, and with a horrible, sordid sexual background that makes Bill Clinton look tame, and that's okay.
	I've seen them.
	Oh, big deal.
	You know, I'm sick of these right-wingers.
	Oh, cameras in the classrooms are good.
	The leftists are against them.
	Oh, the leftists are against cameras.
	No, the leftists put them in.
	The leftists are just, again, one arm on this beast system.
	And I totally am excited about what you're saying, Eric, and I want to check it out.
	What do you think about the announcements of how they won a national draft and how they're getting ready to start it for professionals?
	I think it's absurd.
	And I think that the information war is like just the name of your business.
	It's wonderful because it is an information war.
	I've been handing out the 17 listed things of the philosophy of the neocons on Ron Paul's site, which you had a link on InfoWars.com.
	Two different people at the university here and so forth and just trying to expose at least the neocon agenda.
	You have to get a foot in the door with people.
	But I would say to these left-wingers when they're going, yeah, the neocons are bad, yeah, they're the ultimate evil, yeah, they planned 9-1-1, yeah, look, they bragged in PNAC documents, look, we've got a confession here.
	Explain to them, wait a minute, let's read their stated goals.
	Bigger government, welfare state.
	A police state.
	Loss of liberty.
	Wait.
	No Second Amendment.
	Well, explain to the left people.
	Go, wait a minute.
	Exactly.
	Well, wait.
	They're actually for what the Democratic Party are for.
	And then they'll go, cannot compute, cannot compute, cannot compute.
	And at that point, a lot of them will break their conditioning and see the bigger paradigm.
	Exactly.
	And you may get that cannot compute for the first day, but hopefully that rings a bell in their mind.
	Well, here's another cannot compute.
	They all know depleting uranium is bad.
	And it's 1,900 times higher than its safe level in Baghdad right now.
	But they're for pushing their man, no matter what, until we get them off of that.
	Exactly.
	So the left can see that, but they go, wait a minute, Bill Clinton used depleted uranium in Serbia.
	And see, that's another sick argument.
	The Democrats will go, well, the Republicans did it.
	Well, the Democrats did it.
	Yeah, they're all on the same team.
	We've got to understand there's no separation here between these parties.
	Thanks for the call, Eric.
	And I know I beat that horse every day when I start this show, every night when I start this show, because everything hinges on that.
	Paul in Tennessee.
	Go ahead, sir.
	Taking my call.
	I was watching the Today Show yesterday, and after watching...
	A clip on that show of Rush Limbaugh wanting Justice Moore to resign in protest, and then they had an interview with Moore where the interviewer was saying, well, if things don't work out, are you going to resign?
	So they all want him to resign.
	But then the next story was... Now, wait a minute.
	Limbaugh wants him to resign?
	Oh, yes!
	But it said in the film clip, it said, surprisingly, Limbaugh is saying such and such, which is no surprise to me.
	I mean, the guy's published by the Council on Foreign Relations.
	So if you believe in a New World Order, you're a kook.
	It doesn't exist.
	Well, he flips around, flip-flops whatever's convenient or useful.
	He defends Arnold.
	Oh, well, he wants the board to resign in protest.
	Of course, and if he does resign, then, of course, their worries are over.
	Well, of course, and that sounds good, like, oh, he's for him, but that's exactly what the Democrats want.
	Right, but the next story they had on was a, well, conspiracy fact must be catching on because they trotted out Gerald Posner, who...
	Who has written a new book and gives the secrets of 9-1-1, which supposedly the NSA and CIA are against him.
	Yeah, oh, they're against him, but oh, they didn't do anything wrong.
	Oh, that's the big secret we found out.
	Stay there.
	I'll let you finish up.
	Paul, we'll go to others.
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	The live daytime show on September 11th, on that Thursday.
	I'm going to get in the truck, the evil SUV, and I'm going to drive to Houston.
	I'm going to give a speech for 30 minutes at 7 o'clock, and then I'm going to show Road to Tyranny, and then a double feature, THX 1138, the George Lucas film, with Robert Duvall about dehumanization and the lone individual standing up against it.
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	Let's go back to Paul.
	Paul in Tennessee, then Fred, James, and others.
	Paul, I'm just predicting from what you said, because I know the tactic.
	When something becomes so mainstream, when they have to admit it and stop denying it, they will go, okay, the president lied, the document's out, this new book is a bombshell, it exposes what really happened on 9-1-1.
	Here's the big secret.
	The government were a bunch of idiots and they messed up.
	Everybody goes, oh, this is incredible, and the person that wrote it is in a lot of trouble, and now we find out the secret truth.
	Is that what happened?
	Exactly, exactly, exactly.
	See, you didn't even tell me, and I just could, because they have certain tactics.
	Describe what you saw in the morning news.
	What do you mean?
	The day show?
	I mean, I just guessed what it was.
	No, you're right.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, Katie Couric came on and stated that this new book alleges that officials, some officials in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan knew about the attacks before they took place.
	And all of this information is coming from our interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, who's the number three man in al-Qaeda, and
	I think so.
	Yeah, he's Chief Whitewasher.
	He said, here's another quote.
	He said, normally I'm debunking conspiracies.
	I'm the fellow who thinks that Oswald killed Kennedy, and here I am saying, my God, I think there's a real conspiracy.
	Oh, yeah, and it's those Saudi Arabians.
	They had NORAD stand down for an hour and 20-something minutes.
	They called Mayor Willie Brown and told him not to fly to San Francisco, I mean to New York from San Francisco, not Condoleezza Rice.
	Why, they trained the so-called hijackers at U.S.
	military bases.
	Saudi Arabia paid for the FBI to pay for the hijackers' houses and cars and credit cards.
	No, they didn't.
	They're just pimps, minions in this, and this is sick.
	Well, he didn't mention President Bush's connections with the Bin Laden family.
	No, that only exists in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and the BBC, not in a world of this great whitewasher.
	Right.
	They said, it's the book which I recommend that no one buys, Why America Slept.
	Oh, yes, America Slept, but now, you know, the Bush administration, they're going to take your rights because they're good.
	This is the big secret scoop.
	Definitely.
	Well, it isn't, but they're throwing it out.
	I mean, that's my point.
	They'll go, all right, you caught us.
	Here's the secret document.
	We didn't do anything wrong.
	Man, we've been caught.
	Well, it's like the 30-something pages, 27 pages out of the Saudi Arabia file.
	Man, you're slick.
	And they dribble that out, and it's the government didn't do anything wrong, and Saudi Arabia could have done more.
	Man, that's damaging.
	And then we ignore all the just blatant, incredible stuff.
	Well, he's definitely trying to muddy the waters.
	Well, it's not going to work.
	Right.
	I mean, they can have Ash Croft on an around-the-country tour saying the Patriot Act's good for you.
	More people are reading it and finding out that it's a lie.
	You know, they can claim all day, well, we've got to take your rights away for safety.
	People go, why is the border wide open?
	People aren't as stupid as they think.
	Definitely.
	Thank God for that.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for the call.
	Come back, go to Fred and James.
	Then I'm going to shift into some news.
	We'll go back into more calls.
	Wide open phones today and tonight, this morning, depending on what time zone you're listening to us.
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	We've got about 2 hours and 26 minutes left.
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	I think?
	Also, I haven't spent enough time on regulating vitamins.
	There's a move in Europe to outright ban them.
	In fact, they've already done that in most European countries.
	The EU is moving forward with that.
	They're talking about doing it here now with a bill that has a good chance of passing.
	This is from Insight News, Associated Press.
	Also, U.S.
	offers to report to U.N.
	on Iraq.
	So now they're going to bring the U.N.
	troops in, plus Russian troops.
	France and Germany are skeptical.
	Oh, yeah, they're playing good cop in all this when they're behind it.
	More on voting machines being run by the CIA and being totally fraudulent from the mainstream news, folks.
	But again, you won't see it on Good Morning America or on the O'Reilly Factor.
	Also, I want to read this editorial out of the Casper Star Tribune.
	Victory Act would be no victory for the public.
	It's the best editorial, best news article I've seen so far.
	It's by Charles Lindosky, Star Tribune staff writer.
	So I guess it's not even really an editorial.
	It's just a news report.
	Also, abortion doctor's killer executed in Florida, but they're going to execute the guy, one of the guys that killed the lady who was pregnant.
	I have trouble understanding that.
	I mean, is it a baby or isn't it?
	I think we all know it is.
	Where do you stand on the execution of the man that killed the guy that ran the abortuarium?
	So, more information coming up.
	Just a bunch of news.
	So definitely, folks, stay with us.
	Right now, I want to, just for a couple minutes, and I'm honored to have him back, Jim Shepard, because yesterday we got caught short on time.
	I had the top doctor, the top scientist on who testified to the FDA and to the National Federation of Scientists and others about how deadly fluoride is and how there's other toxic waste being added to it because the stuff we're putting in the water is right out of the fertilizer and aluminum plants.
	We posted all the big mainstream studies on Infowars.com.
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	Are you talking, Alex?
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	Let's go ahead and go to Fred in Arizona.
	Fred, thanks for holding her on the air.
	Thank you, Alex.
	There's a new propaganda theater that popped up the last couple of days, and I wanted to get your take on it.
	The United States Supreme Court has unconstitutionalized some laws in the southwestern part of the United States, particularly Arizona.
	Basically, the US Supreme Court is stating that judges cannot pass sentence on capital punishment cases.
	Which is a lie.
	Basically what the Sixth Amendment says... What do you expect to happen when you've got seven of the nine members appointed by Republicans?
	Socialism, communism, federalism, centralization, and you expect mindless, idiot Republicans to worship this liberalism and call it conservatism.
	What do you get when seven of the nine are appointed by Republicans?
	You get ten commandments taken down.
	Well, you get Ruth Ginsburg.
	She's the one that wrote the majority of the opinion.
	But they got Republicans voting with them.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	Let me finish, though.
	What it amounts to is that the Sixth Amendment says that in all criminal prosecutions, meaning the word a, like robbery, rape, and fraud, so no judge anywhere in the United States can pass sentence on any criminal prosecution.
	But they're not saying that the word capital punishment is not in
	The Sixth Amendment.
	Helper punishment is not used in the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.
	What you're saying is that the jury does that.
	Well, yeah, so here's what we're seeing in Arizona.
	Look out of it and say, oh, judges can't hand out death penalties when obviously the death penalty is coming out of the jury.
	Well, that's correct.
	That's what happens.
	Now, here's my question to you.
	It's clear that for the last 85 years the state judiciary has been unconstitutional.
	And that anyone in prison right now, for any criminal act, has had his rights destroyed by the local judges.
	Are they going to release all the criminals?
	I mean, that's it.
	Are they going to release all the criminals?
	Is that what this thing's about?
	No, they're not going to do that.
	What they're going to do is, you see, they use the Constitution when they want, and they twist it to destroy our rights, and when they don't, they totally ignore it.
	Judges are supposed to sit there and do a little bit of mediation,
	To make sure the Constitution is followed, the jury asks the questions, runs things, is never removed, judges the facts as well as the law, and if they think the government's cheating, they're supposed to let somebody go even if they think they're guilty because the government's more dangerous than all the little criminals combined.
	Our founding fathers said that.
	It's historical fact.
	So what they do is they take this and twist it.
	And yes, judges aren't supposed to hand down sentences.
	Judges are just supposed to go to the jury with that.
	But they so removed what the jury was that people don't even know that today.
	I agree with you.
	There's something evil happening in the court system, or has happened.
	And this thing's been going on ever since.
	First they take the power from the people in the jury box, it's just like the ballot box, and the grand jury, they turn that into a rubber stamp for prosecutors and judges, and now they're just taking it from the local judges as well.
	See, that's how it works.
	First they take it from the people, then the local thugs who work for the feds, then from the local thugs to the feds.
	Yeah, it looks like it, yeah.
	I agree with you.
	So, you know, we're setting it up.
	I mean, it's in the newspaper the last couple of days.
	Hey, they've announced that the Supreme Court follows the U.N.
	I saw that, yeah.
	We have to have the United Nations Treaty unconstitutionalized.
	Well, I mean, they've said that the final arbiter is the U.N.
	and these foreign, quote, international courts.
	Now, that's...
	In all the major papers, they're just throwing it in your face.
	I talk about this eight years ago.
	I get callers going, that's ridiculous.
	I was reading U.N.
	plans.
	I was reading the federal government's plans.
	The Bar Association says we're getting rid of juries.
	They're getting rid of attorney-client privileges.
	People still can't believe it as it's happening.
	Thanks for the call.
	You're welcome.
	Yeah, it's like yesterday.
	You know, they admit there's all this poison in the fluoride.
	Not just the fluoride, but added poison, heavy metals, Grignard reagents.
	You know, we have the experts on.
	Mainstream News admits that the CIA is running the touchscreens.
	It's a total fraud.
	Damn, the average person has no idea.
	I try to tell people that the Iraq war is a fraud.
	These yuppies don't even know where Iraq is.
	They don't even know that they're socialist and think they're conservative.
	I mean, we just have a nation of idiots.
	Not ignorant...
	People aren't stupid.
	They're focused in on my... They can tell you all the baseball scores, all the football scores, all the hockey scores.
	They can tell you all about motorcycles or all about trucks or all about the size of a cam on a Corvette.
	They can tell you all about the best bar to go to to pick up women.
	Again, they're not mindless.
	They're focused into mindless stuff.
	They're experts on the inane.
	They're experts on PAP and stuff of no substance.
	Stuff that doesn't matter today, much less in ten years.
	Our whole civilization, the middle class, our families, our heritage, is all being destroyed by the neocons and their liberal buddies.
	It makes me sick.
	James in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air.
	Yeah, I just got a real quick question, Alex.
	I heard last week about the Klamath County Sheriff that had his arms confiscated by the Federals when the President visited on the 23rd.
	No due process, no charges.
	I was just listening to the radio this morning.
	They were reading the news articles.
	They had Jay Z and Wally on from the Paragon Foundation.
	All over the West, they grab people's private cows off their land that they've owned for 100 years.
	They take them and sell them and violate state laws that say that the person has to have a bill of sale or a deed.
	I mean, the government just grabs your house, grabs your cows, grabs your kids without a warrant, without a judge, without a jury.
	The IRS grabs your bank accounts without indicting you, without convicting you.
	We've been in tyranny a long time.
	Oh, yeah.
	But that one event of the county sheriff losing that right to have his own arms, that's...
	Like I said, we're not going to allow you to have guns while the president's here, you and your deputies.
	Can you tell me, I talked to Pastor Butch about that, because he's the one I first heard it mentioned, and he said that...
	Did you head it on InfoWars?
	I can't find the article.
	Gary Brownfield broke that story.
	Gary Brownfield's been on the air about 40 years, one of the longest continuing broadcasters in the country.
	He's on this network on over 100 stations, and he broke that story, and it was on Fox News last Monday night, and it was on CNN, too.
	Okay, so how would I be able to... Well, you know, here's the problem.
	Do you know how to get into my archives?
	Right, your archives, okay.
	See, we post articles every day.
	Uh-huh.
	And in two weeks, you may ask, where's the Arnold Schwarzenegger article that's right up there at the top of the page that I wrote?
	Right, right.
	But in a week, you may say, where is it?
	You're going to have to go find it.
	I can't explain navigating the websites here on the air, unfortunately.
	Right.
	Oh, I understand that.
	So my best bet would be to go to Fox News.
	Well, also, do you know how to use a search engine?
	I use that.
	I couldn't find anything with that.
	What did you type in?
	Klamath County Sheriff, President, Visit, I just, I'm sorry.
	Try different headlines.
	Okay, okay.
	I'm definitely going to have to dig that article back out and cover it again.
	Yeah, I understand.
	But I do appreciate all you're doing, Alex.
	Thanks so much.
	All right, thank you for the call.
	I really appreciate it.
	We're going to come back and go to John in Tennessee and others.
	You know, I've been getting emails, where's this Plain Dealer article, voting machine controversy?
	Well, it's on the website, and Columbus, the head of a company vying to sell voting machines to Ohio, told Republicans in a recent fundraising letter that he is committed to, quote, helping Ohio deliver its election votes to the president next year.
	Then they got into one of these meetings, and it was the government and all these people talking about how the CIA is running the election, and they caught...
	Diebold, the company in question here, messing with the votes.
	I mean, this is mainstream news, folks.
	You can't miss it.
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	Go ahead, John.
	I want to say something about driver's licenses, Abby Newman, and the police state.
	On Tuesday, burglars stole new driver's licenses from the Tennessee DMV office.
	They even stole the machines for making the new licenses.
	This was on WATE TV.
	His story has now disappeared from the news.
	A driver's license makes ID theft worse, not better.
	Tennessee is where the 911 alleged hijackers got their driver's licenses and the DMV clerk who stole them arsoned herself for her trial.
	Yeah, do you really believe that?
	Burn herself up in a car.
	Yeah, also on the same TV news broadcast, the police chief of La Follette, Tennessee, which is a small town, has five stars on his collar like a five-star general.
	But four-star generals only get promoted during world wars.
	Now, when Abby Newman was arrested for refusing to provide a driver's license at a checkpoint, prosecutors apparently dismissed the charge for no driver's license since she did not own a voluntary driver's license contract.
	In the U.S.
	Supreme Court cases, I believe it was Terry v. Ohio, ID only was required, not a driver's license, since that case involved a pedestrian.
	That's what police call a Terry stop for traffic stops.
	So it seems to me that if a person chooses not to volunteer for a driver's license contract, they only need to carry a photo ID in order to comply with the law and show it to a cop in a traffic stop.
	Well, you know, that's what the Bill of Rights and Constitution says is what the federal ruling said until the 1920s.
	But again, cops say it's a privilege, not a right.
	Now they're saying guns are a privilege, see?
	And in another decade, you'll be the coot for saying it's a right.
	This is how they warrant mine.
	Sure, stay there.
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	Let's go back to John in Tennessee.
	John, you're on the air with Chuck Yeager.
	Go ahead.
	Well, Pastor Bush pie raised $5,000.
	By the way, that's an inside joke, okay?
	Do not think I'm Chuck Yeager, folks.
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	And I don't have the right stuff, by the way, but go ahead.
	Well, Pastor Bush pie raised $5,000 for Abby Newman.
	She was facing life in debtor's prison on death row for civil crimes.
	And that's what they did with the Diana Lupe out in, what's the state, Colorado.
	They said, this is admiralty, and we can arrest you forever under stuff that isn't even a misdemeanor.
	It's just now, you know, it's asset, forfeiture, seizure.
	Right.
	If your kid gets caught having a beer party when you're out of town in New Mexico cities, they'll take your house.
	And you go, well, you can't have a jury because it's not even a felony.
	Well, it's admiralty because any little creak is...
	I think so.
	Now, on Butch Pa's show last night, you said the U.S.
	government wants 30 million Americans in prison by 2010.
	Well, Butch was reading an AP article, and I've seen them on CBS News say 33 million.
	They've got different numbers.
	But, yeah, and look, the rates from just a million five years ago up to tens of millions in the system, five million at any one time behind bars, seven and a half million on some type of controlled...
	Well, civil contempt could put everybody in debtor's prison during a depression.
	Now, my brother just spent 12 days in jail for civil contempt.
	So another lawyer could extort $25,000 cash from my family for court costs and attorney fees.
	Well, yeah, that's how the scam works.
	The local lawyers are there to play a game, suck you dry, and then have you plea bargain to a lesser charge.
	If you're lucky, now they're going to openly work with the court to make sure you get convicted.
	Well, he even lost his law license on the same day as Judge Roy Moore lost his law license for civil contempt.
	And my brother's in one of the law firms suing the Saudis for their role in 9-1-1.
	And arrests for civil contempt can happen to any person, in any case, civil or criminal, at any time.
	All right, thanks for the call.
	Appreciate it, John.
	Yeah, people say, oh, the Patriot Act's taken all our rights, and it is.
	It's horrible.
	Secret arrest, secret execution, but what about asset forfeiture seizure?
	You all heard the stories in your town of the old lady with the $5,000 in her purse, and she didn't trust banks.
	Cop pulls her over.
	Let me search your vehicle.
	Finds the money.
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	Well, it's my money.
	We're taking this.
	This could be drugs.
	They test the bills.
	If any of the bills have drugs on it, which almost all bills do, oh, see, you have drugs.
	We're going to keep the money.
	They don't even have to find drugs on it to take the money, though.
	And all the time we see old ladies at checkpoints, hands behind their heads, cops all over them throwing their goods out, while vans of illegal aliens just swoop by.
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	I had the mothers coming on from that public school where they strip-searched a bunch of the girls, but I just canceled them because we needed to cover other news and other topics.
	I mean, teenage and, well, pre-teen girls being strip-searched, in some cases by men, and hidden cameras in the showers is so widespread now, it's not even really a news item.
	We're good to go.
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	It's all just wall to wall.
	I mean, it's like 9-1-1 prior knowledge yesterday.
	It came out in the Washington Times and Boston Globe and a bunch of other major papers that, oh yeah, the Bush White House ordered the entire bin Laden family and a bunch of other terrorists and people connected to terrorists to be flown out of the U.S.
	to safety on September 11th and the day after September 11th while everybody else's planes were totally grounded.
	The Bin Ladens could fly out the safety.
	You know, I hardly even mentioned that yesterday.
	We've been reporting it for so many years now.
	Almost two years coming up on about, I don't know, it's about 23 and a half months ago we started reporting this.
	It's one of the things they have on the nightly news they say is an urban legend isn't true.
	Kind of like the instant messaging service.
	That warned all its employees not to go to work.
	MSNBC found out that was true.
	But again, it's an urban legend, according to certain organizations that claim that you're evil if you say it.
	Well, I'm just going to say it again.
	The world's round, and the sun does come out in the morning, and the government is out of control and illegitimate and corrupt and carrying out acts of terror to scare us into submission.
	Let me cover some news, and we'll go to Wesley in Tennessee, Renee in Alberta, Canada.
	And Billy Bob in South Texas, and many, many others that are patiently holding.
	If you want to join us on air, the toll-free number is 1-800-259-9231.
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	because I think that we should have attorney-client privilege with the lawyers, that I think double jeopardy is a bad thing, drowning you twice in the same crime, I think the Second Amendment is an individual right and it's tried by the Second Amendment and God-given.
	I know the government's openly announced they're getting rid of our borders and all our sovereignty and they're going to accept all foreign illegal ID cards and we'll have no citizenship anymore but in a global system.
	Again, this is the type of radical stuff we're into.
	We pick the newspaper up and read the headline and don't like it.
	Like this one, the Washington Times today.
	U.S.
	offers to report to U.N.
	on Iraq.
	Secretary of State Colin L. Powell yesterday started a mayor diplomatic effort to institutionalize peacekeeping and internationalize peacekeeping of Iraq, circulating a resolution that would have the U.S.
	military reporting to the United Nations.
	Now, they do something.
	They have a tactic.
	Long before the war, they said, we'll be there five years.
	Official number, official policy, official contracts with Halliburton and others.
	Then they announced to everyone on the big news, you know, the policy report says five years.
	We read the policy report.
	It's in a few papers.
	The big news says we'll just be there a few months.
	Ha, ha, ha, we'll have an election.
	The Iraqis will love it.
	Milk and honey.
	The real report by the government said mass carnage, death, total enslavement.
	There'll never be elections.
	Five years of our troops.
	Then a dictatorship set up, run by the oil companies, administered by the CIA.
	That was the official statement before the war.
	People say, Alex, how did you know they claim five years?
	Are you a government agent?
	What's your inside scoop?
	Well, I don't just sit here and rant every day, morning, noon, and night.
	I spend a lot of hours every morning, every night, reading their own policies, PNAC and others.
	And so I told you a long time ago the UN would take over Iraq in six months to a year.
	After they posed as the good guys against the war and after there was a fake chicken fight, a carnival barker fight between the U.N.
	and the U.S.
	This is the old scam where you see the fight, the woman being beat on by a man in a parking lot.
	She's real good looking.
	You run over.
	You say, back off, buddy.
	He acts cowardly, runs away, and then you take her home and you wake up in the morning with your throat slit and everything taken.
	Your bank account's drained.
	You wake up dead.
	Well, that's all this is.
	The U.S.
	is the tool of the globalists, and when they're done, the U.N.
	flutters down as the savior.
	The U.S.
	will remain the commander of the Unified Command, Mr. Powell told reporters in the State Department, and there will be an element in the resolution that calls upon the United States as the leader of the military coalition to report on a regular basis to the United Nations.
	Mr. Powell said in an effort to bring the U.N.
	Security Council into the game.
	Was unrelated to mounting U.S.
	casualties in Iraq.
	In recent weeks, the death toll has sparked calls for Democrats for greater U.N.
	control over Iraq.
	Man, and you know, it's all over the world news that the depleted uranium level is 1,900 times the safe level.
	And the troops are getting lesions and bleeding gums and all the good stuff.
	So, yeah, I'm over pulling our troops out, sending the Pakistanis and others in there.
	Feel sorry for them, too, but I have to admit I do care about our troops more than I do about Pakistanis, even if our troops have been trained to take our guns and gotten a lot of good practice in Serbia and now Iraq.
	France and Germany continuing the Carnival Barker Act are skeptical of U.S.
	resolution.
	French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Erhard Schroeder discussed the U.S.
	proposal at a meeting in the German city of Dresden.
	Schroeder, who the government has not yet seen any of the details of the United States plan, said that from what he knows at this point, it doesn't go far enough to let the United Nations and the Reconstruction.
	Now, again, France and Germany are run by the banks.
	They're run by the OECD.
	The Organization of Development.
	They're total puppets.
	They're just playing a part to set peace.
	Same thing with Japan, all of them.
	Total joke.
	Several articles in the Sacramento paper and other papers, some of the law journals out there.
	Voting machines call home.
	And this is up on the websites, InfoWars and Prison Planet.
	And it says the San Luis Apisto County...
	And it gets into what we covered a few days ago with our voting expert, what happened at 3.31 p.m.
	on Election Day in San Luis Obispo County, California, a file from the Diebold stash examined by computer and voting activist Jim March.
	Palomino County, California turns out to be from a real election that contains real votes.
	It also contains a real problem for Diebold.
	Ha, ha, ha.
	You can read where they were in there.
	They're not supposed to touch it, run the machines, nothing.
	But there they were remotely during the election, wirelessly accessing it.
	Of course, they wouldn't let anybody know that all these systems have wireless systems built in.
	It's not proprietary, and you can't know.
	It turns out, again, the CIA is involved running it, and the corporate minutes of that have now been recorded.
	And they have this so-called classified teleconference with the federal election people, state election people, the lobbyists trying to sell the machines.
	I mean, it's so horrible, I could talk for 100 hours about it.
	That's just one of the articles.
	And this just surfaced because there's so much of this stuff floating around on these company websites that their idiot employees end up leaving in areas that can be accessed.
	The file was from the 2002 primary election in San Luis Obispo, California.
	It is dated March 2002.
	It is dated a time stamp.
	It contains an integral audit log which confirms the date and time.
	It was saved as a backup file at exactly 3.31 p.m.
	on Election Day.
	About five hours before polls closed.
	They were loading in the results of the election exactly as they occurred.
	The file contains a tabulation taken for 57 precincts.
	Can't talk now.
	The votes in the file correspond with the final vote tally, which can be found on the San Luis Obispo County website for the election.
	But only about 40% of the votes had come by 3.31 in the afternoon.
	The file was put on the Diebold FTP site used by Diebold or Diebold employees to transfer files.
	Why is it against the law to count votes before the polls close?
	That's right.
	And it goes, was the file used for training?
	And it goes on, no one trains poll workers during Election Day, and why would you use real votes and real files during the middle of the election for training when on top of it the company is not supposed to have access to it, much less in real time?
	Did they set the date forward for a logic and accuracy test?
	The audit log shows that this was an election, not a test.
	When the L&A test is done, the machine is set to test the mode.
	The audit log reflects the test mode.
	Maybe the clock was off.
	It was for a different time zone.
	When it said 3.31, it was 8.31.
	Checking the date and the clock in part of the election procedures marked important, but more than that, are the polls closed there
	Or more votes.
	About 180 F-registered votes had cast votes as of 3.31 p.m., but the final number of the primary was at about 35%.
	Therefore, the 3.31 vote probably was taken partway through the election.
	And it goes on for page after page after page after page documenting they were in there manipulating the votes.
	And again, I have right here in front of me the plane dealer of Cleveland, Ohio, reporting the same thing.
	And secret meetings about how to use the military industrial complex for ad campaigns to sell touch screens, to lobby Washington with their money.
	Why are the people, why is the military, the CIA, and private defense contractors involved in selling electronic voting, in maintaining it, in running it, in lobbying for it, and for running ad campaigns?
	I mean, this is third world dictatorship, folks!
	It's right out in front of you.
	Right out in front of you.
	I'm going to come back, get into Victory Act, would be no victory for the public, and then we'll go to Wesley and Regina and Renee and Billy Bob and everybody else, and get into abortion doctor killers executed in Florida.
	Again, abortion doctor killers executed in Florida.
	Russians to go into Baghdad with the U.N.
	and just all the rest of it.
	Coming up, you better turn over the stones, folks.
	You better look under the rocks.
	You better get hot over these issues, or you're going to lose your freedoms.
	We'll be right back.
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	Let me read this Casper Star Tribune article, and then we'll go to Wesley and Renee and Michael and Jack and many others.
	And then into some other important news.
	And I'm going to try to not speed up too fast because I'm not a quick news reader.
	I don't like covering stuff too quickly.
	But I do have so much information.
	There's so many details, so many facets that I end up getting too sped up and I sound like a guy with a mouth full of marbles.
	Victory Act would be no victory for the public.
	I rarely read whole news articles written by other people, but this article by Charles Lewandowski, star Tribune staff writer, is in the new Police State section of InfoWars.com.
	What we've done is, instead of it being one big front page every day, we put stuff in little subsections so you can go read the news of the day there so the site loads faster for folks that are on dial-ups
	Victory Act would be no victory for public.
	On August 6th, reporter James Gordon Meek of the New York Daily News scooped a story revealing that Senator Orrin Hatch, Republican Utah, plans to introduce legislation in September to further expand federal police powers.
	The Hatch bill, entitled the Victory Act, Vital Interdiction of Criminal Terrorist Organizations Act,
	You see, by some, to be a substitute for earlier proposed so-called Patriot Act II, the Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003, which was leaked and caused a furor in Congress, as well as among liberal and conservative civil liberties groups.
	A draft copy of the Victory Act, dated June 27th, has been posted at the website libertythink.com.
	We also have it posted in the police state section of infowars.com and prisonplanet.com in the documents section.
	Meanwhile, U.S.
	Attorney General John Ashcroft is stomping around the country to generate support for the draconian USA Patriot Act 2001 at the public's expense.
	We're good to go.
	Justice Department officials were telling Senator Patrick Leahy, Democrat Vermont, the ranking Democrat member of the Senate History Committee, the department was not drafting another anti-terrorism bill.
	Here's where Charles Lewandowski is wrong.
	Charles, it was introduced on January 7, 2003.
	Patriot Act II is S-22 in the Senate, Domestic Security Enhancement Act.
	In the House as Security Enhancement Act.
	Enrolled, legislative control number, and then he testified that it didn't exist as it was introduced before the House and Senate, and that's in Police State's Rehuddle and Enslavement.
	Okay?
	Ashcroft's saying it doesn't exist after it's introduced by him.
	The Draconian Patriot Act II would have empowered the federal government to conduct secret arrests, collect DNA samples from anyone suspected of terrorism, remember terrorism is any criminal act, and allow the government to take away an American citizenship, and I would add ship you to a camp.
	Despite its comforting title, the June 27th,
	89-page draft of the Victory Act does contain provisions similar to some found in the Domestic Security Enhancement Act.
	Section 101 of the Victory Act creates a new category of crime called narco-terrorism.
	A narco-terrorist would be anyone who possesses even the smallest amount of an illegal drug.
	That's right, says one marijuana cigarette, folks.
	They can walk you out and blow your head off.
	That's your new America.
	With or without the drug dealer's knowledge that it's connected to terrorism.
	Well, any action that's in violation of any law, of any federal or state law, folks, is punishable by having your throats slit, okay, by a bunch of goons.
	It's in there, okay?
	The Section 103 of the Act increases the criminal penalties for those convicted of narco-terrorism and other drug-related crimes.
	Yeah, 20 to life.
	Or there's other provisions for execution.
	Section 201 prohibits money exchanges through a money transfer system based on trust called a Hawala.
	The bill calls Hawalas the crime of money laundering.
	Hawalas have been used throughout the world for centuries in small rural communities where banks don't exist.
	For instance, Hawalas are used by immigrants in Canada to transfer money to relatives in their home countries.
	It's worse than that, sir.
	I've read the bill.
	Paying cash for anything over $1,000 and a walla.
	Okay?
	Putting together a pot, say, for gambling, or who's going to shoot the biggest deer at the deer camp?
	A whole walla.
	Everything's a whole walla.
	Okay?
	It's know your customer legislation, know privacy and banking.
	And by the way, that's already all in Patriot Act 1.
	Really, this just duplicates Patriot Act 1, takes some of the provisions of Patriot Act 2 and adds them.
	It's either repealing stuff in Patriot Act 1, or trying to.
	The House has passed it, the Senate won't.
	So now they're just firing more torpedoes, basically.
	It's just more of the same.
	We'll be right back.
	We're on the march.
	The Empire's on the run.
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	Well, I did it again.
	I started hyperventilating, trying to warn you of all the lies.
	Here's the Casper, Wyoming statewide newspaper, Casper Tribune.
	Star Tribune.
	Section 202 makes it a crime to conceal more than $10,000 on one's person.
	We're good to go.
	We'll forfeit the money upon arrest, even if no charges are filed.
	The Hatch Bill not only expands the asset forger powers of the federal government, just what we need, it expands the definition of money laundering to include offshore banking as a means of tax evasion.
	Of course, that will all be selectively enforced.
	If you're Enron or Halliburton, you can do no wrong.
	A person arrested for transporting funds, again, to the euro will get in a bunch of trouble.
	The money laundering sections of the Victory Act also extend to the authority of the federal law enforcement officials to issue non-judicial or administrative subpoenas.
	Yeah, just magic courts out of the FBI that don't even exist.
	They're going to make FBI agents judge and jury and executioner now.
	Oh, they are in Russia.
	What's wrong with it here?
	The money laundering sections...
	And again, it's for all crimes.
	And they've said with Patriot Act 1...
	In the Washington Times article, Patriot Act cast a wide net.
	It was the headline.
	The Justice Department said in open court that all crimes, all misdemeanors, all citizens will be targeted using all of this.
	It has nothing to do with terror.
	But at the same time, that's testifying to Congress.
	When they're on the news, it doesn't affect you.
	It's insane.
	No one ever said it.
	You better pass or the terrorists will get you.
	Finally, Section 505 of the Victory Act expands the government's authority to intercept communications.
	Under this bill, a federal district judge could authorize a roving wiretap, that's a blank check for whole regions of the country, to track a person's wireless communications, including cell phones and laptop communications.
	The ironically named Victory Act would not be a victory for freedom-loving people.
	It is really a wish list for those who want more federal police power.
	And it says the final sections of the Hatch Bill limit when unlawfully obtained evidence from wire or oral communications can be thrown out of court.
	And of course, just like Patriot Act 2 and 1 gives total anonymity and liability protection to federal forces, such evidence can only be suppressed according to the bill if it violated, involved bad faith by law enforcement, meaning a defendant has to prove the federal police intentionally broke the law.
	So...
	Creates a whole new class of administrative subpoenas, which, by the way, is in Patriot Act 1.
	I mean, guys pull up, they chase you down, throw you in a white van, you're never seen again.
	If you got $1,000 in a transfer of cash, or $10,000 in a bank transfer, and that's your new America, folks.
	But, again, I guess it's a good thing after all, isn't it?
	Ashcroft says so.
	Let's go back to the calls, and we'll go back into the news.
	Let's go to these calls quickly, because I want to get to everybody.
	Wesley in Tennessee, go ahead.
	Hi, Alex.
	How are you this afternoon?
	Fine.
	I just wanted to say that I truly hope that the fire that burns within your belly for the truth will always burn brightly.
	And I mean it from the bottom of my heart.
	Well, you know, I'm kind of a weirdo, Wesley, when I read the mainstream news saying, yeah...
	Private groups controlled by the CIA are accessing the votes while they're being made, and there's a secret wireless system into the touchscreens, and, well, yeah, there's not really an election anymore, but let's move on and talk about the football player who made a B-minus on his grade.
	That's more important.
	I mean, I guess we're weird because we're upset about them publicly admitting they're taking our right to vote away.
	Well, if it makes this weirdos, I'm glad to be part of the group, and all I can say is God bless.
	Now, my point for today is if the guy that was executed yesterday for murdering that abortion doctor had been in the parking lot, and the doctor was standing in the parking lot with a two-year-old little girl, let's say, with a gun to her head,
	And he blew the head off that doctor.
	Instead of his being executed, we'd see him with the chief of police, the mayor.
	Well, all the time, girls at eight months, all the time, girls at eight months, at their public government training, fragnation and drugging camp, where they learn how to be gang members, they have a baby, they throw it in the trash can, and they get, you know, 20 years in prison.
	So this is the new America.
	You're absolutely right.
	And Ashcroft is now moving and arguing that people not be allowed to protest at abortion clinics, and continuing that it's racketeering, agreeing with Janet Reno, as he does on every issue, and actually expands every Reno policy, because he's a good neocon.
	And all I can say is this.
	I mean, I've heard the so-called conservatives decrying this guy that shot the abortion...
	And all I can say is that Joseph Mingla conducted abortions on pregnant women.
	Now, again, I guess Joseph Mingla was good then.
	I mean, we have to come to that point and say Joseph Mingla was for eugenics, Margaret Sanger was.
	She's good.
	You know, our government says she's good.
	It's the sick double standard.
	I was just going to say, it really is our well-being.
	It's double seek and double thank.
	You know, love is hate, war is peace.
	It's just really been turned upside down and inside out.
	Well, you see, millions of people, 50-plus million people, have carried out abortions.
	So that's quite a voting bloc that doesn't want to admit that they were wrong.
	That doesn't want to say that a baby in the womb is a human being.
	And so that's what you get.
	We've become an evil society.
	The evil's taking over.
	And now they're taking our right to vote.
	They're taking our borders.
	They're taking our guns.
	They're taking our kids.
	They're taking everything.
	Well, once women start to have chickens, then maybe I'll change my position on abortion.
	But until that time, I have to consider that little...
	Exactly.
	That's a human being that's not doing with your body what you want to do with it.
	Well, look, I mean, we told everybody, now it's euthanasia.
	There's a big report out.
	There's people all over the country.
	We've had Wesley Smith on from the Wall Street Journal, Wesley.
	And they've got the names.
	We're getting a family on with a woman who talks and smiles.
	They're going to turn her feeding tube off.
	I mean, there are people begging, feed me, feed me, and they're killing them, and the Wall Street Journal lists their names.
	That's how crazy it's gotten, buddy.
	But the average yuppie has no idea, but they know all about the sports scores.
	Thanks for the call.
	Thank you.
	It is mentally ill.
	To tune in and hear people getting so concerned.
	I tell you, it's wrong that they're posting this young man's scores in high school, that he's not eligible.
	I tell you, the team's in a lot of trouble.
	Callers call in, they're so concerned, they feel so manly.
	They talk about the team and they wear their little t-shirts and they go to the little game while their daughter's at home snorting cocaine with a gang member about to be pregnant.
	It's not that the football and the baseball is bad in and of itself.
	I mean, think about it.
	It's that that's the religion and people know all the details of it.
	But it'll go, politics, vote machines are frauds.
	I don't want to hear it.
	I don't vote know-how.
	Or they tell me, there ain't nothing wrong.
	We got George Bush in there.
	I'm just sick of you, Mr. Jones.
	I believe in George W. I was a Democrat, but I'm voting for him.
	Surprisingly, there's a lot of Democrats that support this president.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	The ones that know what they're getting.
	Total destruction of America.
	Total destruction of America.
	Now taking place.
	The autopsy report on this country.
	And by the way, the facade of America is still standing, folks.
	You think it's bad now?
	There's a big wind of the next New World Order offensive coming, a 100-mile-an-hour wind, and when it hits this termite-eating structure, you're all going to wish you'd have done something.
	But again, when they engineer a depression, you'll be groveling to the government, just put extra creds on my multi-pass card, my ID, and I'll be good.
	I'll volunteer.
	You've got to volunteer in the Homeland Security work brigades to get your creds on your card.
	And people say, well, that's not volunteering.
	That's compulsory volunteerism.
	Well, you've got to work like the rest of us to get creds put on your card after the crash.
	That's what they're planning.
	Can you imagine what these yuppies will do when their bank accounts are drained?
	They're not going to fight with the government.
	They're going to worship the government.
	They're going to line up to do whatever they've got to to keep the Lexus.
	I'll report on my neighbor.
	He's got guns and he won't turn them in, these NRA members.
	I'll be the first there.
	My neighbor's got a gun and I think he's a member of the militia.
	He's involved in it.
	He's with them.
	Now we've got our new world leader who fixed all the problems and he rules from... He's Jesus.
	He rules from Jerusalem.
	Like the preachers say, he's our leader.
	We must swear oath to him.
	And because of the terrorist attacking, Pat Robertson said the implantable chip is good.
	Jesus says take the chip.
	We've got to kill the terrorists.
	It's biblical to cut their heads off in mass rallies.
	We love Jesus.
	Jesus is our world leader.
	That's what they're setting up.
	Sounds crazy?
	They're doing it!
	They're doing it!
	Oh, there's going to be a world leader in Jerusalem.
	God will support Israel no matter who's there.
	There'll be a leader there.
	Soon Jesus will return there.
	He'll rule from it.
	I mean, folks, it's scary.
	All right.
	Let's talk to...
	Renee in Alberta, Canada.
	Thanks for holding her on the air.
	Thank you very much.
	I appreciate it.
	Well, my friend, I have an interesting little tidbit here to add.
	I received a check mail from Visa because I'm a Visa member.
	And the checks were $5.
	It's a cashless check.
	You're instantly enrolled in a great new program.
	And this great new program consists of
	And it's absolutely obvious that that's being sold, and we already know Visa's doing it, to Homeland Security.
	Oh, yeah.
	They want you to give all your bill payments, everything, and you just give them all the information, and they take care of it for you.
	In case you ever lose it, that way they have all the information on the back.
	Oh, Bill, you know what?
	I've got a great plan.
	I'm going to buy 1,000 acres outside Austin, nice farmland out towards Bastrop.
	Yeah.
	And anybody that wants to be my slave can come out to Bastrop
	Yeah, sounds like what's going to be happening here.
	Well, let me tell you what else is going on, and it's even more serious than that.
	A lot of private corporations are trying to force people to take automatic cash transfers to their bank accounts.
	And then there's a penalty if you refuse.
	Now, the government's trying to demand payment, not by a mail-in, but by computer.
	And a lot of corporations are doing this.
	And the Federal Reserve announced four years ago they're going to put RFIDs in all the money.
	You'll still have cash, but it'll all be scanned at the point of sale with your name and information put on it to stop money laundering, because that's what aids the terrorist.
	Scan with your name and number imprinted right on the RFID?
	Well, yeah, see what'll happen is they'll demand you swipe your ID card, your driver's license, it's really a national ID card, or your, up in Canada, your province card, which is really a standardized national ID card.
	They've now announced it's really a world ID card as they unify all the systems.
	This has all been publicly announced years ago.
	And see, so, then they'll say, well, it has the added thing that we have the new national sales tax, which they're getting ready for.
	They're going to keep the income tax, too.
	They're going to use mindless, phony conservatives to push for a sales tax.
	Then they're going to keep the income tax, have both, and tax you on fast food, sugar drinks.
	Then it'll be beef, chicken, things that aren't healthy.
	How much ice cream and milk you buy, that'll be transmitted to the insurance company.
	For your quote, right?
	Because it cost all of us.
	You starting to get the picture?
	Nightmare!
	Manipulation!
	Control freak!
	Yep.
	Control!
	Gattaca.
	Oh, yeah, it's all been announced publicly.
	It's coming.
	The thumb scanners are going in at the grocery stores in Austin as I speak.
	Thanks for the call.
	My question is, there has to be an... I would assume there's an opposite opposing force to this takeover...
	Go ahead.
	In the upper echelon of Congress or Senate?
	No.
	I mean, look at it.
	Was there an upper echelon opposing a Nazi Germany or Russia?
	There might be people fighting with each other, but it's only over who controls the cattle.
	Gotcha.
	I mean, when a rustler comes up to take somebody's cows, the Illuminati sees it as their cows.
	Are there rustlers out there that try to set up their own systems?
	Yeah.
	And that's what the law enforcement and the FBI is for, is to go after their competition.
	A drug cartel starts shipping in a lot of drugs, cutting back on the globalist profit.
	They send in troops.
	I mean, they sent the head of the New York Stock Exchange three years ago publicly to meet with the FARC.
	Publicly!
	It was in the newspaper.
	He said, you better launder your money with us.
	They said no.
	The invasion began.
	All right.
	Well, thank you for the call, sir.
	Really good points.
	Let's talk to Michael in Texas and Jack in Colorado.
	Go ahead, Michael.
	Alex?
	Yes?
	What's interesting, I've been reading in World Net Daily, New York Times, Houston Chronicle, what's interesting about the year 2005, and I know you can't put dates on it, is that the free trade agreement goes into effect in 2005.
	Yeah, and Bush says if you like the economy now, he wants total Pan-American Union, you're going to love it.
	Bush is also talking about establishing a Palestinian state in 2005, Europe.
	Let's just put it this way.
	The next couple years are going to be real interesting.
	It's just interesting, because I know you can't put dates, but these global leaders are putting... Oh, well, they said that the New World Order was five years behind in 2000.
	They suspended putting the gold capstone on at the public Illuminati ceremony they had on national TV at the Giza plateau.
	Remember that?
	And they didn't put the gold cap on.
	Yeah.
	They stood up and announced.
	A French rock band said, oh, Antichrist, you will come in five years.
	Praise you, Antibes, ruler of Earth.
	And the world leaders were all there.
	And then they were praising Satan in Latin.
	I watched this with my mouth hanging open on PBS or locally.
	One more thing, Alex, before we go.
	But again, I'm radical.
	I shouldn't report how they're praising Satan, by the way, on TV.
	Sure, stay right there.
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	Wall to wall, every news channel.
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	Real quick, Michael in Texas, and we'll go to Jack, Ron, Bill, and others.
	Go ahead, Michael, finish up.
	One of the interesting points is that you were talking about all these special operations groups going to Iraq.
	Well, on MSNBC back during March, they had what's called M-O-U-T, Military Operations in Urban Terrain.
	They have actually at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, 101st, a...
	Well, actually, I don't know who told you that.
	There's a bunch of recognized churches and religions.
	They're non-governmental organizations.
	And they've got a New Age meditation chamber there.
	But, hey, thanks for the call.
	Appreciate it.
	We've got Jack McClam come up in about ten minutes.
	I'm going to break, and then I promise I'm going to Jack, Ron, and Bill.
	And then a bunch of other news.
	Jack McClam, Police Against the New World Order.
	I'm kind of overheating here on the air.
	There's so much news and information, but we'll get to the stuff we haven't covered in the next hour.
	We've already covered a lot of it.
	There's a lot of other important stuff, like experts, SARS return, possible this fall, more of their fear-mongering.
	Just five years for a man who raped a baby in England.
	But if you are found owning a gun illegally, you get 20 years in jail.
	Or if you defend yourself.
	I mean, it shows that criminals run things.
	Sickos run things.
	Bush touts free trade accords, benefits to the American economy.
	Yeah, it's been great, hasn't it?
	What we need is more.
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	And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
	Coming up in about eight minutes, we've got Jack McClam...
	My favorite guest, police against the New World Order, police and military against the New World Order, Aid and Abet newsletter.
	He's been fighting the globalists for over 20 years, highly decorated police officer, of course, also a military veteran.
	We'll talk about just the news and how to wake the police and military up and what we're facing right now.
	And the specter of government-sponsored terror unfolding.
	Going back to the calls as promised, Jack in Colorado has been holding patiently.
	Go ahead, Jack.
	Hi, how are you?
	Fantastic.
	I just wanted to tell you that they're RFIDing the euro now.
	Yeah, they announced that the euro note over in the EU is going to have RFID, but I want to tell you, American money's already had it since 1996.
	It's just a larger, more primitive RFID.
	Oh, really?
	And that, again, is the radio frequency identification devices.
	Okay, so let me just ask my question really quickly, which is, do you think that they're going to depress the country before, or do you think they'll take the money away first before they depress the country or afterwards?
	Well, I think that by taking the money supply, by restricting the money supply so we physically can't pay off debts, which is one of their favorite tactics, which they've done many times before in our history in the last 100 years since the Federal Reserve took over, last 90 years, that's exactly what we're facing.
	So, I mean, it's the chicken or the egg, which comes first.
	I mean, that's up to your perspective.
	But I know Ron Paul, congressman...
	A veteran doctor, a veteran congressman with a great track record said, we're going to have a depression.
	He said that this weekend here in Austin when I gave a speech there at a large meeting that he attended and gave a speech at.
	Okay.
	Well, I'll just keep listening to you and hope this doesn't happen.
	I hear you.
	I got a little...
	The show's getting a little wild, but the news is crazy.
	What did you think of the last hour, all the wild stuff that's going on?
	I know.
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	Powerball, that's certainly one of the regional taxes we're facing.
	Yeah, wouldn't you consider it that?
	Well, I know in 1984 they used lotteries to control the mindless population, thanks for the call.
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	Ron's got about a minute and a half here.
	It's an excellent show today, Alex.
	Well, thank you.
	The last hour is your attempt, and I feel the same way.
	You almost want to grab the people by their lapels and shake them to wake up, because there are all these things going on.
	And it's not just that Alex Jones says it.
	You can verify this.
	And I know because I've done my own research, what you're saying on the air is verifiable from official sources.
	You mentioned Orrin Hatch, that fine plastic patriot out there in Utah.
	Well, the American people ought to know when this man positions himself as a fine conservative patriot that he is pushing in the United States Senate for a law called the DREAM Act.
	All right?
	What the DREAM Act would do is make it even easier than it presently is for illegal aliens to be converted into American citizens and as an added benefit,
	They will get superior economical education.
	And he's introduced a bill so Arnold can be president.
	Part of that.
	That's right.
	He's also introduced a bill for the Victory Act.
	He's part of a lot of mayhem.
	But this was just his latest thing.
	Did you imagine that?
	A non-American citizen.
	And he said, because we don't want to waste their talents and their contributions.
	But don't waste the talents and contributions of your children.
	They'll waste your children, literally.
	Well, Bush just signed the new deal where illegal aliens get health care, but citizens don't.
	Did you hear about that?
	That's right.
	Yes, yes, I have heard about that, and I was going to mention something about that.
	I was going to allude to that.
	And this is what we're coming to at this stage in time.
	This is outrageous, and that's why you're...
	You've gone on the way you are.
	We're being inundated with so many abuses.
	Exactly!
	I just feel like pulling my hair out.
	I mean, this is totally insane.
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	All right, my friends.
	Welcome back.
	Already 8 minutes and 30 seconds into this third and final hour.
	It is the 4th of September, 2003.
	I've got a bunch of key news articles I want to throw out at our guest, Jack McClam, who for over 20 years has been exposing the criminal activities of the global elite, also known as the New World Order.
	And Jack joins us now from his home out west.
	I know that we have...
	A bunch of callers that are patiently holding on a bunch of different subjects concerning the New World Order.
	If you'd like to join us on air, we'll take those calls early in this hour at 800-259-9231.
	Jack McClam, it's good to have you on the show, my friend.
	Hey, brother.
	It's good to be back with you, Alex.
	I want to take some time out to talk about some of the outreach programs you and Officer Dalton and other great folks have had
	We're good to go.
	Now, we've been reporting this for almost two years.
	We knew this day one that they flew hundreds of bin Ladens and terrorists out of the country.
	And now they just calmly announce it like it's no big deal.
	Your response to that?
	Well, there's so much coming out today, Alex, through programs like yours and just hundreds of publications that are non-establishment publications and other media sources.
	I think that when they do these things, they throw it out there so that when it comes out, when these things, if they do come to the fore, they can say, oh, we told you about that stuff, it's no big deal.
	But, of course, you and I know that this is all a game.
	You know, I've got a great example.
	It's all a game to cause terrorism and fear in the minds of the American people, so we will give up our freedoms and become a part of the Bush's world government system.
	Well, Jack, I've got a great example of that.
	I was talking to Stanley Hilton, Bob Dole's former chief of staff, suing the president for $7 million for carrying out September 11th.
	Not for prior knowledge, but for being involved.
	And he was deposing all these military officers and colonels who were involved in having to train this supposed terrorist and having prior knowledge and NORAD standing down.
	And so, right as he reports that on my show and talks about that, suddenly an article comes out in the Associated Press saying,
	Well, on September 11th, at 8.30 in the morning, right when the hijackings began, it just so happened the CIA was running a drill of flying hijacked jets into buildings in New York and D.C., and we couldn't help it, and that's why NORAD accidentally stood down that morning, Jack.
	Yes, those accidents, they happen, and there's not much you can do about it, brother.
	It just happened to happen.
	Just so happened to happen that the head envoy from the White House, the National Security Council, was running that drill that morning.
	That way when all the guys at the Pentagon stand around and go, well, this was a drill this morning, but it really happened, they just go, just a coincidence, boys!
	How dumb do they think these officers are, and why haven't we seen more from them?
	Tell us.
	Well, it's just a matter of conditioning.
	You know, when I was an academy instructor in the largest police academy in the southwest part of the United States, in Arizona, for five years, and I saw the brainwashing that our brothers and sisters in law enforcement go through.
	Of course, I'm a military veteran from the Vietnam War and have for 22 years now communicated with our brothers and sisters in PSYOP operations, in the military, and in federal agencies and all.
	This is a matter of conditioning to these guys to where they really believe when their government tells us these things.
	Many of them say, well, that's the way it is.
	Many of them just don't know that they have been brainwashed to where they believe whatever the government tells them to do to the American people or any other people of any nation or any of the information put out like that to mislead them.
	Well, absolutely.
	Again, we're talking to Jack McClam, Police Against the New World Order, 20 years fighting the globalists, putting out Aid and Abet newsletter, Vampire Killer 2000.
	To police and military listening to this show right now, what do you have to say to them about the system we're in right now and what we're facing in the next two years?
	Well, as we say every day in our email to law enforcement and the military people that are contacting us or through our publications,
	We are your brothers and sisters here.
	Somebody, praise God, years ago gave us some information that awakened us to the fact that there is this world conspiracy going on.
	We don't have to, as you know, Alex, and our law enforcement people don't know out there, we don't have to...
	I wonder if this is going on, because we have publications, many publications out there that you've read and I've read, where prime ministers, Supreme Court justices, presidents of the United States and others have admitted to this system that's set up.
	And so it's real, but when you hear it from a fellow police officer or soldier through one of our publications...
	You will give it some heed, but sadly, when a private citizen comes up to give you that information, you think they're crazy, they're off the deep end.
	You've been told that they're probably one of these domestic terrorists out there.
	Now, Jack, here's the problem, though.
	For 20-something years you've been doing it, for 10 years I've been exposing it.
	The cops, the police, the military, they heard us talk about this.
	Now they read USA Today.
	It says the Supreme Court follows the UN's orders.
	They're getting rid of the borders.
	They're coming after the guns.
	Now I've seen our credibility just explode because all we did was read the documents on the air.
	Now it came true because we have their own handbooks.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And so I think we're going to see more of this coming out because...
	They need to do their cover-ups and they've got to come out with the truth so that they can show that they didn't keep this.
	They have to keep their credibility with the listeners out there and their readers by exposing a little of this, not the in-depth that you and I would, which we dig out, but they have to expose some of it to keep their credibility, which is waning tremendously today.
	That's why people are turning to the Alex Jones Show and
	We're good to go.
	The leftist media has been so easy on George Bush.
	You know, they've been soft-cuddling George Bush because he's one of them.
	I was about to say, you took the words out of my mouth.
	I mean, Bush, and I go back to this, total amnesty, he's pushing it.
	Massive gun control, reauthorization of the assault weapons ban, blocking arming the pilots to this day, signing campaign finance reform, expanding the Department of Education, signing on to UNESCO.
	This guy's getting more through than Bill Clinton.
	And, Jack, I've been on radio shows and had people call me a liberal because I'm saying George Bush is the liberal.
	What do you say to those people?
	Well, it's the old shell game, brother.
	It's always been the case.
	It's always been the case that when you give the Christian Republicans out there, conservatives, a Republican socialist, they'll follow him over a cliff.
	And if you have a majority, as they tell us that we have a majority of the people in this nation are Christian, any time they give us a so-called Christian, what I call a political Christian like they did with
	We're good to go.
	I think?
	The majority of the Americans will follow him anywhere they want him to go, so I wouldn't be surprised if the liberals don't get behind Bush, because he's accomplishing much more than what Clinton could have done in 20 years in destroying America and bringing us under this world government system, because the majority of the conservatives watch Clinton like a hawk.
	Well, it had to be a Judas Iscariot.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the enemy that crawls in under the fence to open the gate...
	To let the enemy in.
	I mean, they don't try to stand out.
	They try to camouflage themselves.
	That's right.
	Absolutely.
	So the majority of the American people will watch a liberal Democrat like a hawk and the...
	A liberal, socialist, humanist, republican can do anything they want to.
	As a matter of fact, the majority of the people will help them do it.
	Well, now they're announcing the UN's going to be coming into Iraq.
	I mean, that was staged from the beginning.
	The UN wasn't against this war.
	They were playing the part of the good cop.
	That's right.
	Good cop, bad cop.
	That's right.
	You're very wise there, Brother Alex.
	Yes, that's right.
	That goes on a lot.
	It's all psychological...
	That's a big part of it.
	Oh, yes.
	And I was talking to another friend of mine whose son just graduated.
	He's now a state police officer.
	And, of course, he knew the truth.
	And they were teaching him that the Russian and Chinese model is the way to go.
	And they actually have Chinese flags and Chinese badges.
	But then when the old alumni come in, they actually take all that out of the classrooms.
	Did you know that, Jack?
	I've heard this from other officers that write to us.
	I've been out of it now since 1986, so...
	I'm getting it second-hand now.
	I used to be one of those academy instructors.
	Oh, we showed photos of this on TV and the textbooks.
	Yeah.
	Well, I can tell you, Alex, this is true because when I was teaching in the police academies, we would teach these young skulls full of mush, these young cadets, the 20- and 21-year-olds that had no life's experience.
	How to get a confession out of you.
	When they put you in the back of the police car, they get a confession out of you without reading you your rights and then hold up in court.
	And all officers know how to do that.
	They just put you in the back of the police car and sit up front, turn on the tape recorder, and then they let you sit there and don't say a word to you until you start talking.
	You'll start saying, now what'd I do, officer?
	Hey, let's stay there.
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	Then in many cases, except greater forms of oppression, it's because it was someone different removing the thug before him.
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	Jack McClam...
	You have traveled the country.
	You've given hundreds of speeches, if not thousands, to police and military.
	A lot of them are awake.
	A lot of them aren't, though.
	Or a lot of them consciously choose to join the evil, thinking that they'll be protected by it.
	Some of the tactics you use to break these people's conditioning, I know the truth is your secret weapon in history, but how do you do it so successfully?
	Well, we've had a lot of help, and the reason we've been successful is the private sector, those listening to your show today that aren't in law enforcement or the military, have helped us reach a brother or sister in the military or law enforcement in their family or their community.
	Listen to this.
	Somebody gave a police officer one of our constitutional police and military publications, aid and abet,
	And here's what he writes back.
	He says, as you know, we don't give training in what the rights of our countrymen are in any police academy.
	How easy it is to take someone's rights if the people don't know what their rights are and the police officers don't know what the people's rights are.
	I will help in my department, but we must awaken our brothers and sisters OJT on the job training as we do our jobs in the streets.
	Send me 20 of your last issue of Aid in the Battle on the government-funded and promoted takeover of the Southwest by Mexico and 20 copies of the issue with the article on the U.S.
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	Charter.
	And here's another fellow up here.
	Dear fellow officers, I want to assist you in getting education material in the hands of my fellow soldiers here at Fort Blank.
	Tell me what I can do to help.
	And another one up here.
	This guy's in trouble, Officer McLam.
	I'm being persecuted for siding with a good citizen in his case against fellow officers who beat him unjustifiably and arrested him on trumped-up charges of assault.
	And let me stop you for a second, Jack, because...
	Police think, hey, cover up for your buddies and everything will be alright in the end.
	No.
	That breeds corruption.
	It lets a corrupt system use you.
	It then turns the people against the police and it destroys the country in which your children are going to be raised.
	Amen, brother.
	That's right.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	And so many of these good brothers and sisters in uniform don't even know how they're brainwashed.
	And so what we do is we publish that police and military written
	Constitutional publication for lawmen and police officers, I mean soldiers.
	And so what you have is, Alex, it's like when you go into your dentist and you try to tell your dentist how to fix your teeth.
	He may, if he's got good bedside manner, pat you on the head and say, there, there, but he's not going to listen to you.
	But another dentist can come in right behind you and tell him the same thing and he will listen to it and he will heed it.
	And the same with if, God forbid, you have to go to an attorney.
	Well, I'll give you an example.
	I'll give you an example.
	Well, let me give you an example.
	A lot of dentists wouldn't listen to the fluoride debate.
	But then as more dentists brought forward the evidence and scientists gave them information, they are listening.
	That's right.
	Absolutely right.
	We have this peer group, you know, in all these professions, and it's the same in law enforcement.
	So the people can really do well at awakening their brothers and sisters there in their communities and their families if they'll just let us do it.
	We're all volunteers.
	We're not asking for your money to...
	For any reason, we'll send you our police and military constitutional publications.
	You get them out, put them under the windshield wiper of any squad car you see in your community.
	Get back in your car and drive off.
	And that brother or sister will call us, or they'll write to us after they read that police and military publication.
	And guess what, Alex?
	Then that soldier or police officer becomes our agent for God and country forever.
	Stay there, Jack.
	We've got a break.
	When we come back, I want to take some calls, and I want to talk about how the government's tried to counter you, and if that's been effective.
	We'll be right back.
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	Let's... Jack...
	We're going to go to these calls in just a second, but real quick, you've been very effective.
	You've reached millions of police and military over the years.
	A lot of them wake up, but they've always got new, young, dumb ones to get in there.
	What types of tactics have the feds used to counter you and others?
	Because I know when police send us videotapes of lectures FEMA and others give, it's...
	You've got to watch these conspiracy theorists, these right-wingers.
	They've got cops and people in suits and well-spoken people, and there's a grain of truth to it, but you've got to watch them, and they're the enemy.
	Can you speak to that?
	Oh, yes, brother.
	That's the in-service training.
	Initial academy training is filled with that, and then, of course, your in-service training every few years
	They call all the officers back in off the street and re-indoctrinate them.
	Upgrade the propaganda.
	Right, and re-indoctrinate them and give them the new buzzwords that those that love God and the Constitution are using and turn it into a negative.
	So, yes, this is part of their training.
	As you know, one of the most enlightening for the listening audience out there was, thank goodness for the FBI agents
	I think so.
	It says defenders of the U.S.
	Constitution, period, are terrorists.
	It says gun groups.
	It says those that make frequent references to the Constitution.
	How does a police officer swear an oath to that Constitution and then be told it's crazy if you believe in it?
	Well, it's not difficult when you've got a captive audience.
	When I went through the police academy, brother, they were in 1976.
	They were heavily indoctrinating us.
	They told us,
	You can't trust the citizens out there.
	This is a quote.
	You can't trust them to ever come to your help.
	If you ever need help, you can only trust a fellow officer.
	If it wasn't for the thin blue line, the citizens would totally destroy themselves and the nation you love.
	And so right at the police academy level, they start brainwashing these young 20 and 21-year-olds
	That they are there as your supervisor to supervise you for the good of yourself and the whole nation so you don't destroy the nation.
	So it takes a while, but it's easy to brainwash these young people that have no life experience.
	But funny, Jack, I would ask those police officers, the more cops, the bigger the drug war, the bigger this whole system gets, the more police state, the more crime.
	The New World Order hasn't designed things to ever fix the problems.
	In fact, they create the crises to offer the solution.
	That's right.
	Yes, that's right.
	The Founding Fathers warned us repeatedly way back then.
	Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, and I think it's Federalist Paper 8.
	They warned us right in the documents about that there would be times that despotic governments would create fear and panic in the minds of the people to take away their freedoms.
	And that's exactly what's happened again today.
	Let's take some calls, Jack.
	Let's talk to Bill in New Jersey, then Dale, Charles, Kevin, Leif, and others.
	Go ahead, Bill.
	Bill may no longer be there.
	Compliments to you.
	Keep up the good work, okay?
	Right here in New Jersey, any car made after 1996 will be connected to the New Jersey State Inspection System.
	And you go for inspection to get your car inspected, they will connect to your car computer, and what they are doing is seasoning everyone.
	Getting them used to the habit of connecting to the statewide or nationwide computer system.
	That is a federal, sir, let me stop you.
	That is a federally admitted public document that I had eight years ago.
	It's now been in the Associated Press.
	A global tax with a national tax, a state tax, a county tax, a city tax.
	Everyone will get a cut.
	All new cars have a satellite tracker plug-in for the box.
	We're good to go.
	And the Fifth Amendment, every time you go to the gas pump to get your gas, it's going to wirelessly access and track where you drove and what you did.
	Now, I didn't know New Jersey had just announced it.
	I know Portland and San Francisco had.
	Where did you get this?
	As of August 3rd, the New Jersey State Broadcasters Association has been running these ads daily, many times daily, on all the major radio networks.
	And let me stop you.
	Now, they'll claim this is some new thing they just thought up yesterday.
	Why, eight years ago, did they start the mandating for all cars globally to have this plug-in system?
	And then they said on the news last year, I heard the ABC clip, they said, by accident, they actually said, by accident, this box got in there.
	Jack McClam?
	By accident, Jack!
	Yes, things just happen to happen, don't they, Alex?
	I mean, what are you going to do when they try to make you bring your old truck in to have a tracker put in it?
	That's right, that's right.
	This OnStar program is going to be prevalent throughout the whole United States and every single movable vehicle in the near future, and that's coming to us from on high in some of our federal agencies.
	We've got some good federal agents in there that are feeding us information, and so get ready.
	You're not going to be able to go to the bathroom without them being able to see you and hear you in there and see what you're doing and what you're... Oh, by the way, that was television week, as well as Reuters reported.
	We've covered these on the AirJack and posted them on InfoWars.com in the news and focus section.
	They admit that OnStar can be connected to by Homeland Security to listen to you.
	All the new cell phones can listen to you, and the phone looks like it's off.
	And that was on the Green Bay News two weeks ago.
	And it gets worse.
	It gets worse.
	By law, when you have the satellite system, the local cops will be able to dial in and listen.
	Yes, and another brother just wrote to me here a few days ago.
	And talk to me about he was told that the TVs now, the new TVs, will view you as you go about your daily activity right in your television in your home.
	That's out of television week.
	Mainstream news.
	Now, folks, think about this.
	We're going to be the kooks when we say we don't want the fiber optic TVs watching us.
	We're the kooks because the cell phones are listening.
	Jack, how do we counter this?
	Well, brother, I just tell people that we're not going to counter this at all.
	We have a duty.
	We say here, duty is ours, consequences are God's, so we have to continue to do your duty, Alex, like you do every day.
	But unless the people, and I blame...
	The 70%, it used to be like 90% Christians today from withdrawing from the battle, hiding in their prayer closet for something called the rapture, and believing their ministers when they lied to them and tell them to obey everything evil government tells them to do because all evil government's of God, and God will get you if you don't obey evil government.
	I blame the 70% of my brother and sister Christians out there that have totally withdrawn from the institutions and let them be taken over by these damnable despots and the minions of Lucifer in these agencies all the way up to the White House.
	So, brother, I don't see us stopping it.
	We have a duty to awaken as many police and soldiers as we can here and private sector people as we can.
	But we're not going to win it at this level because the people are so brainwashed.
	We're not going to reach the majority.
	Let me say this, though.
	We do see a backlash to Patriot Act.
	We do see a counter-revolution.
	The problem is they're just going to blow more stuff up.
	That's it, yes.
	Tomorrow, if we get too successful, tomorrow they're going to blow the top off the state houses in about four or five states.
	And the people will drop down on their knees and demand, not ask for, but they will demand martial law on the streets of their towns and cities, and the government will gladly give them martial law.
	Well, did you hear about the Philippines?
	300 of their top special forces took over a building and brought out the documents.
	We had to do this for attention.
	The government's carrying out the terror for martial law.
	And we're tired of being killed by our own government agents with the U.S.
	government for this phony war on terror.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's the thing.
	We're living in very exciting times, and unless the people will come out of their houses and become active instead of just cringing in the corners of their houses, afraid to come out, that's the only way we're going to turn it around, brother.
	And we do see more police and soldiers joining us every day.
	So what happens, Jack?
	Unless we expose who the criminals are and the government-sponsored terror, and that's why that's so important.
	And then if we expose that, we're going to launch World War III, which they got brewing.
	They sure do.
	Remember, it was none other than Colonel Hackworth and Colonel Dave somebody on Fox News that said,
	We're over there right now in a 20-year war, and we're going to go to Iran and Syria and all those nations next, and they're right on target.
	This is going to be World War III against one billion Arabs and Muslims, and whoever else may join them, which could be the Red Chinese, join their side.
	Don't worry.
	We've got a national draft for everybody.
	Let's take some more calls.
	Dale in Pennsylvania.
	Thanks for the call, Dale.
	You're on the air.
	Yeah, hi, Jack and Alex, and this 20-year military veteran would like to comment on something Jack said about being very active.
	Now's the time to be active, and the best way to do that is like to distribute Alex's three latest videos and Jack's book, Operation Vampire Killer 2000.
	And I just want to say it's one of the best primers on the New World Order out there.
	And the great work of Rick Dalton.
	And Jack McLam.
	Yes.
	Yes, Officer Rick Dalton, too, yes.
	And it's 75 pages, and Jack allows people to make copies of that book, but he has ridiculously low prices if you'll buy the book in bulk.
	And the book is not, and his newsletter, both the book and the newsletter are not just aimed at police.
	It's also for military personnel, and as Jack and Rick have said in the past, tyranny is not going to come to our doors in America unless it comes in uniform.
	And now's the time to get...
	Our police officers and our military personnel get this book especially into their hands.
	And Alex's last three videos, they're the best informational tools out there.
	We need to wake these folks up and we need to wake them up now.
	And that's the whole mission of Jack's organization.
	I just want to urge people, again, buy that book and bulk, Operation Vampire Killer 2000, and I want to thank you both for all you do.
	Well, thank you.
	Let's go on to some more callers here.
	Hey, I want to thank that brother for all he does, too.
	I know who he is, and he does a lot himself, and Lord bless him for it.
	Absolutely.
	Charles in Florida, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Hey, Alex and Jack.
	Yeah, I wanted to draw your attention, if you didn't know about the U.S.
	The Naval Institute magazine, which is all the top brass of the Navy, the issue of my friend of mine who's dead, retired from the Pentagon, put me on to this.
	He just quit taking the magazine because he was so disgusted.
	It's like the February 2002 issue advocating atomic war with Russia and China and advocating a total mobilization of everybody under a draft, not just
	No, it's old women, old people, digging ditches, working in private factories, troops over you.
	I've seen them announce it on C-SPAN.
	Literal Soviet America.
	Jack, did you know about the thing in the latest Economist, the Wall Street Journal of England?
	Last July, they had a Randy Weaver-style killing of a militia chaplain in Michigan.
	This was last July, and it was completely hushed up.
	Well, yeah, they smashed it with tanks and burned the whole place.
	We posted photos on InfoWars.
	Yes, yes, a sad situation, and it's too bad the national press just held the lid on that one, because very few people know about it.
	It doesn't look up Alex's show.
	Thanks a lot, Charles.
	Great points.
	Jack McClam, my cousin's an officer in the Army.
	He got into Special Forces, then he got into Logistics and other things.
	He's always been overseas, and we're at Fort Bright.
	Now he's in Austin, merging the APD with the military and the National Guard, and he told me, he said, Alex, I believe what you say now.
	He said, a few months ago, we got called in, and we got told, the officers, hundreds of us, at an officers' meeting that I had to drive to in East Texas, again, at Sam Houston University, and I was told, we're all getting implantable, trackable chips in two years.
	Yes, I've heard this before, but we haven't been able to document it, but I think it's... I mean, my cousin didn't believe me on this stuff.
	We've heard it through so many sources.
	I believe it's true.
	They've been all over the news saying everybody needs them.
	Oh, yes.
	They've been promoting that for years.
	But, I mean, think how crazy it is.
	It's like the movie V or something.
	You know, they're telling them, you're all getting chips, and the terrorists are going to get you.
	Kevin and Mass.
	Kevin, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, Alex.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	There was an article by Henry Maycow, an interview of someone that had a pen name Savali, an Illuminati defector.
	And one point this person made was that one weakness the Illuminati people that are in there had is that most of them, their morale is low in that they're wounded, abused victims themselves from their own culture and their own lifestyle or the way they're, you know, all their beliefs.
	And that if people can wake up,
	I mean, even if it were state capitals being blown up by fake terrorism stuff, if people can wake up and see this, I think they do still have the advantage at this point in time, although we're losing ground.
	Well, I'd say people are waking up like never before.
	That's why the enemy is accelerating their program.
	Right.
	That's absolutely right.
	Yes.
	See, the thing is, you're right.
	These are sick, wounded, twisted people who are willing to kill unlimited amounts of people.
	That's why they're so dangerous.
	We've got to prepare people for the government to launch mass nerve gas attacks, release smallpox, you name it.
	Don't think for a minute that if we start winning this fight, they will start wiping out tens of millions of us.
	And it's at that point, that's why they've got the giant FEMA armies of foreign troops ready for total invasion.
	I'm not joking, folks.
	They've got Red Dawn ready as one of their backup plans.
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	Jack, bottom line, we've got to defend our families.
	We've got to wake people up.
	We've got a responsibility to warn people.
	And I know that if patriots and Christians and good Americans weren't out there fighting the New World Order, we'd be in a much worse position right now.
	Would you not agree with that?
	Jack?
	The people are the ones that are making the difference.
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	Yes, sir.
	Okay.
	Yeah, the people are making the difference.
	You and I are just tools of the people out there to use us and use our...
	Videos, use our publications, use our words over the airwaves to reach the hearts and minds of other Americans.
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	Go ahead, Leif.
	Good afternoon, Alex and Jack.
	I apologize for going off topic a little bit, but...
	The head minion was in Kansas City today, and we went down to catch a glimpse.
	Which minion was that?
	That was President Bush.
	Oh, telling you how wonderful more NAFTA and GATT are.
	Yeah, how wonderful the economy is.
	Yeah, how wonderful the economy is, right.
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	All right.
	Thanks.
	Anything else, Leif?
	Yeah, I just wanted to say they tried to make it look like there wasn't going to be a lot of people down there, and there was quite a few.
	Absolutely.
	Take care and keep it up.
	Jack McClam, thanks for coming on the show.
	Look forward to having you back on in the future.
	Okay, brother.
	Thanks for all you're doing, Alex.
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